SriAkaalJiSahai Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 Ok, so I found this video of two singhs doing wrestling. They were both wearing dumalla's, however for one Singh their dumalla came off in seconds. I find the idea to wear it in practice to be impractical. Should we still be wearing a dastar during practice or when competing. Below is the link to the Instagram video. https://www.instagram.com/p/C9uyz_PRPeV/?igsh=MXNycXhnbWpucWx6eQ== 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 5 hours ago, SriAkaalJiSahai said: Ok, so I found this video of two singhs doing wrestling. They were both wearing dumalla's, however for one Singh their dumalla came off in seconds. I find the idea to wear it in practice to be impractical. Should we still be wearing a dastar during practice or when competing. Below is the link to the Instagram video. https://www.instagram.com/p/C9uyz_PRPeV/?igsh=MXNycXhnbWpucWx6eQ== Purtan Sikhs did everything in Dastar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SriAkaalJiSahai Posted July 26 Author Report Share Posted July 26 3 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: Purtan Sikhs did everything in Dastar. The dastar would fall off so easily. Like it makes no sense to wear it when practicing or participating in wrestling matches. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chatanga1 Posted July 26 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 26 10 hours ago, SriAkaalJiSahai said: I find the idea to wear it in practice to be impractical. Should we still be wearing a dastar during practice or when competing. I agree. If sikhs are doing kushti, kabaddi or sonchi then it makes no practical sense to keep it on. 10 hours ago, SriAkaalJiSahai said: Below is the link to the Instagram video. https://www.instagram.com/p/C9uyz_PRPeV/?igsh=MXNycXhnbWpucWx6eQ== Such a strange thing to witness. Nihangs tie their dumallas sitting down with a chadar spread on the ground and covering their own legs so the dastar doesn't touch either their feet or the ground, and here you see the dastar on the ground underneath their feet. Shocking really. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 20 hours ago, SriAkaalJiSahai said: The dastar would fall off so easily. Like it makes no sense to wear it when practicing or participating in wrestling matches. Tell that to all the shaheeds who fought real battles in them and also wrestled. Sorry it isn't convenient for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SriAkaalJiSahai Posted July 27 Author Report Share Posted July 27 6 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: Tell that to all the shaheeds who fought real battles in them and also wrestled. Sorry it isn't convenient for you. You need to reread what I said "practicing or participating in wrestling matches" I said nothing about real battle. Knowing your dastar will be taken off you in less than second in a wrestling match makes no sense to wear it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 17 hours ago, SriAkaalJiSahai said: You need to reread what I said "practicing or participating in wrestling matches" I said nothing about real battle. Knowing your dastar will be taken off you in less than second in a wrestling match makes no sense to wear it. You need to reread where I said they praticed and wrestled in them and just accept you're whining. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premi Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 On 7/26/2024 at 9:51 PM, chatanga1 said: I agree. If sikhs are doing kushti, kabaddi or sonchi then it makes no practical sense to keep it on. Did Puratan Singhs just wear a rumaal over Joora like we see hockey players and kabaddi players do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SriAkaalJiSahai Posted July 28 Author Report Share Posted July 28 3 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: You need to reread where I said they praticed and wrestled in them and just accept you're whining. You didn't though. Anyways, this topic has lost its momentum. Looking for a conversation unfortunately it ended with a brick wall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SriAkaalJiSahai Posted July 28 Author Report Share Posted July 28 21 minutes ago, Premi said: Did Puratan Singhs just wear a rumaal over Joora like we see hockey players and kabaddi players do? GurjantGnostic should know this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 On 7/27/2024 at 9:42 AM, GurjantGnostic said: and also wrestled 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 I wasn't there brother. Do what you want. The whole is this practical today thing is culture eraser is all. Carrying "kirpan isn't practical today", "growing kesh isn't practical today" "being chaste isn't practical". Whatever you think was the original, do that and don't try and "make it practical today" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 I don't know the age of this painting they're not wearing anything. If it's from the 1700s or so would be a decent reference. Kesh is the Kakkar. What are we basing wearing anything on the head in Gurbani? Go with that. I'm just wary of the but it's not practical line of thinking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 Tanakhah-nama No Sikh shall cut his hair. Tie your turban afresh each time you remove it. Do not clothe yourself in red. Do not roam around naked. [17, 23, 43, 64] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 We got people trying dastar to their arm while showering. That's not practical in a shower these days. But the general stance seems to be never without it, which would include wrestling. If it be taken off for wrestling it can be taken off period. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 In this older appearing, maybe is maybe isn't, the wrestlers do tie Dastar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SriAkaalJiSahai Posted July 28 Author Report Share Posted July 28 2 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: I wasn't there brother. Do what you want. The whole is this practical today thing is culture eraser is all. Carrying "kirpan isn't practical today", "growing kesh isn't practical today" "being chaste isn't practical". Whatever you think was the original, do that and don't try and "make it practical today" Carrying a Kirpan is practical. It's something I believe everyone should carry. Being shashatdhari. Going kesh is growing kesh. It serves spiritual purpose. Everyone has kesh, and everyone grows it out. Being chaste is practical. Practicality is something the Khalsa was. If you want to cover your kesh with patka etc then it's cool. It's practical. You've taken this too heart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SriAkaalJiSahai Posted July 28 Author Report Share Posted July 28 2 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: I don't know the age of this painting they're not wearing anything. If it's from the 1700s or so would be a decent reference. Kesh is the Kakkar. What are we basing wearing anything on the head in Gurbani? Go with that. I'm just wary of the but it's not practical line of thinking. No one is trying the whole "does it say that in gurbani" line. Well, the above video highlighted a singhs dumalla getting taken off in less than 10 seconds. If he's was wearing a small turban then fair enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SriAkaalJiSahai Posted July 28 Author Report Share Posted July 28 2 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: We got people trying dastar to their arm while showering. That's not practical in a shower these days. But the general stance seems to be never without it, which would include wrestling. If it be taken off for wrestling it can be taken off period. If you are having ishaan and you're not washing the kesh on your head, then there is no need to tie your dastar around your arm. If you're going wash your kesh, then it makes sense to not wear your dastar around your arm. Everything is about context and situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 20 hours ago, SriAkaalJiSahai said: If you are having ishaan and you're not washing the kesh on your head, then there is no need to tie your dastar around your arm. If you're going wash your kesh, then it makes sense to not wear your dastar around your arm. Everything is about context and situation. It's my understanding bibekis keep kesh, keski, kirpan, kara, kanga and kacheera on then at all times. That's the standard. If you personally don't abide by it that's cool but don't try and lower the bar to where you are. Aspire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 20 hours ago, SriAkaalJiSahai said: If you are having ishaan and you're not washing the kesh on your head, then there is no need to tie your dastar around your arm. If you're going wash your kesh, then it makes sense to not wear your dastar around your arm. Everything is about context and situation. For example I don't do all those things. I accept I'm not on that level. The standard remains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SriAkaalJiSahai Posted July 29 Author Report Share Posted July 29 4 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: It's my understanding bibekis keep kesh, keski, kirpan, kara, kanga and kacheera on then at all times. That's the standard. If you personally don't abide by it that's cool but don't try and lower the bar to where you are. Aspire. No one is lowering the bar. 4 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: For example I don't do all those things. I accept I'm not on that level. The standard remains. Bro, you are taking this to serious. It's a conversation. We need to discuss these things to have better understanding and context. Anyways, I'm open to others and their contribution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 19 minutes ago, SriAkaalJiSahai said: No one is lowering the bar. Bro, you are taking this to serious. It's a conversation. We need to discuss these things to have better understanding and context. Anyways, I'm open to others and their contribution. I take Sikhi very seriously yes. You don't want to engage cool. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SriAkaalJiSahai Posted July 30 Author Report Share Posted July 30 16 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: I take Sikhi very seriously yes. You don't want to engage cool. I've been engaging my dude. Taking something too seriously is not a good thing. End up being a fanatic or an extremist in your view. Discouraging view, opinion and conversation, then the first and last post of every thread should be a one liner. This is why so many people have been confused about varies topics e.g. Dasam Guru Granth Sahib ji, Jhatka, Shastar Pooja, Sukha etc..simple one liners block the sikhs from studying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 1 hour ago, SriAkaalJiSahai said: I've been engaging my dude. Taking something too seriously is not a good thing. End up being a fanatic or an extremist in your view. Discouraging view, opinion and conversation, then the first and last post of every thread should be a one liner. This is why so many people have been confused about varies topics e.g. Dasam Guru Granth Sahib ji, Jhatka, Shastar Pooja, Sukha etc..simple one liners block the sikhs from studying. What sources did you contribute? You're saying bibekis and khalsa are extremists? I'm confused on none of those topics. I have serious stances based in Gurbani and Ithias. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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