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a good dumalla wont come off. If you wrap your kes in a keski and do it in a tight joora so it is on the on the 'fronter' portion of your head, and then do another dastaar over the top, it shouldnt come off.

can you give me dumalla lessons please? i ll buy you ice cream

buy me some opium in iran i heard they have a good deal of drug-addicts there

this is a forum not a drug joint place, please take such request via email.

signs of malech soo called khalsa pimping the panth.

If you need help I have enough evidence to show that RSS and Hinduism is a fraud.Let's ban the bastards.

Hello Javanmard, if you can why dont you bring out evidences expose RSS on the forum- under anti-sikh section..it be very helpful for everyone.

Thanks

so much for india being secular eh?

some excellent excellent pictures, please keep them coming

Personal Dairy is called- Ishvar Amolak Lal:

http://www.rarasahib.com/downloads.htm#IAL

Amrit Sanchar came to us from Gobind in the roop of Guru Nanak Dev ji, and than later on Gobind in the roop of Guru Gobind Singh ji gave us the final form of Amrit Sanchar. It is not heritage from the Muslims. Perhaps the Shia also received their initiation ceremony from Waheguru, which would explain the similarity

good post bro !

is it possible to buy this book online somehow?

it be great if people can buy this excellent book online, i had lot of singhs in bc asking - how can they purchase this book?

nice post shaheediyan veer ji

javanmard, have you seen gurdwaras in iran? if so please describe the sangat the feeling, condition of the gurdwaras. is it in good condition? have you met sikhs in iran? how are they? whats their rehni behni?

also veer , Are you refferring to the sgpc destruction of golden temple?

when you mentioned:

Unlike Amritsar the shrine is in perfect condition and any modern extention is built in the same traditional style

[align=center:752cb58a50]Maharaja Ranjit Singh in the eyes of Non-Sikhs[/align:752cb58a50]

According to the famous historian Carlyle, a worthy sovereign should be judged from a sole factor as to how he employs his sword after being victorious.

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Le Griffin writes that:

"Maharaja Ranjit Singh ruled his kingdom exactly according to the Sikh way of life and Sikhism considers everyone as friends and talks about the welfare of all irrespective of caste and creed."

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The spirit of Gurbani couplet, "The one Lord is the Father of all and we are the children of the one Lord rules supreme in every Sikh heart." Charles Hugal, writes in his book, "Travels in Kashmir and Punjab", that, "probably no person in the world could have established such a large empire with minimum bloodshed as Ranjit Singh has established his kingdom."

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Affirming Hugal's views, Prinsep, also writes in his book, "Origin of Sikh Power in Punjab", that, "Ranjit Singh's whole career was free of any blemishes like unnecessary atrocities and cruel bloodshed."

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Historian R.S. Kanungo praising all the aspects of the Kingdom of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, in his writings says, "his empire was the kingdom for 'Welfare for All', in which all were equal sharing partners. In his kingdom there was no special love for Sikhs and no animosity for non-Sikhs. There were no special taxes on any caste to show it down from the other or to label it inferior."

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W.G. Osborne writes that, "Maharaja Ranjit Singh was so compassionate that outside a battle he did not kill anyone, so much so that in generosity he even forgave those who tried to kill him and felt happiness in forgiving."

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Charles Hugal in his book, "The Court and Camp of Ranjit Singh", writes that, "Ranjit Singh ruled his kingdom according to the Sikh tenets. All the important positions were given to Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs, entirely based on merit. Even his main advisors were three famous Muslim brothers: Fakir Aziz-ud-Din, his foreign minister; Fakir Nur-ud-Din, his home minister; Fakir Imam-ud-Din, his custodian of the arsenals. Forty-six senior Army officers and two top ranking Generals were Muslims.

One General was French and score of military officers were Europeans. In police and civil services he has about one hundred Muslim officers alone. Hindus too, used to hold many key positions in Sarkar-e-Khalsa. Ranjit Singh was secular through-and-through.

Since he had lost his one eye in childhood, due to small pox, he used to remark jokingly about himself that,

"God Willed that as a true Sikh I should look upon all religions with one eye"."

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Sayyed Waheed-ud-Din, the great grandson of Fakir Aziz-ud-Din writes,

"On one occassion, Maharaja and Fakir were out walking on the outskirts of Lahore when they met a bullock cart carrying what looked like a huge book. The Maharaja stopped the cart and asked the driver, what he was carrying.

"Maharaja", replied the driver, "I am a calligraphist and this book is a manuscript of the Holy Quran, which is my entire life's work. I am on my way to Hyderabad to sell it to the Muslim king of that country.

Turning to Fakir Aziz-ud-Din the Maharaja said,

"This man seems to think that there is nobody on this side of Hyderabad who is pious and generous enough to pay him a good price". He then asked the calligraphist, "How much are you expecting my good man?"

The calligraphist mentioned a huge sum of Rs. 10,000. Before the minister could intervene, Ranjit Singh commanded,

"Fakir ji, please see to it that this man is paid ten thousand rupees from the state treasury." He then asked Fakir Aziz-ud-Din to read him a passage from the manuscript. Fakir read Sura 'Yusaf' and then translated it.

"But Fakir ji," remarked the Maharaja, "The Great Granth says the same kind of things. What is the difference?"

"None, your Highness", replied the Fakir, "The goal is the same, only the paths are different." The Maharaja awarded Aziz-ud-Din, for this apt reply, by gifting him the manuscript.

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Maharaja Ranjit Singh did not know about prejudice and sectarianism, that is why a Muslim poet like Shah Mohammed was not tired of praising him and lamented by recounting the virtues of Ranjit Singh on his death.

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Another unparallel quality of Ranjit Singh was that any king or landlord who was defeated by him, Ranjit Singh instead of showing him down, used to show generosity and allot him landed property worth hundreds of thousands of rupees so as to pass life with dignity.

Defeated Afghan Governor Muhammad Khan, Nawab of Kasur Kutub-o-din, defeated son of Governor of Multan are apparent examples of Ranjit Singh's benevolence.

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According to N.K. Sinha,

"Maharaja Ranjit Singh used to give robe of honour to Qazis, Sayyeds, Ulmas and hermits so that they could keep on working for welfare and building the nation with full devotion and enthusiasm."

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Henry Lawrence in his book, "Adventures of an Officer in Punjab", writes that:

"Maharaja Ranjit Singh used to give large properties to the defeated kings and keep them in a position to live a comfortable life, while others would enjoy to let their enemies suffer to the limit of defeat."

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Murray writes,

"Ranjit Singh was full of humanity. He ruled by following the etiquettes of Sikhism and therefore he was generous, benevolent and a sympathiser."

"He has been likened to Mehmet Ali and to Napoleon. There are some points in which he resembles both; but estimating his character with reference to his circumstances and positions, he is perhaps a more remarkable man than either. There was no ferocity in his disposition and he never punished a criminal with death even under the circumstances of aggravated offence. Humanity indeed, or rather tenderness for life was a trait in the character of Ranjit Singh. There is absolutely no instance of his having wantonly imbued his hands in blood."

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Maharaja was truely secular and democratic in ruling his kingdom and welfare of his subjects kept paramount importance in his performance agenda. There were 4000 schools in his Kingdom, which were all same for the children of all brotherhoods. Even English and French were taught so that students could communicate with the literature and culture of the outside world. The Maharaja gave a practical shape to the Sikh mentality. His empire, in the real meaning, was the kingdom of the people in which there was justice, happiness, dynamic power and universal partnership.

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Waheed-ud-Din, quotes, two of Ranjit Singh's orders which highlight his sense of justice and equality for his people. In one order he says, that even if His Highness himself issues an inappropriate order against any resident, it should be clearly brought to the notice of His Highness so that it may be amended......justice should be dispensed in accordance with legitimate right and without the slightest oppression and prejudice and orders should be passed in accordance with the Shatras or the Quran as pertinent to the faith of the party.

In his second decree, he frankly states that Sri Sat Guru ji forbid if His Highness or his beloved sons should commit any inappropriate act. It should be brought to the notice of His Highness.

Waheed-ud-Din considers these orders very unique in the sense that they do not even exclude the Emperor from the clutches of the law. History stands testimony that, Maharaja received lashes on his back in open view of the Sangat when the punishment was awarded to him by the Akal Takhat.

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Vincent Smith, observes:

"The Punjab state under Ranjit Singh was neither a traditional Indian territorial state and monarchy, nor merely a dictatorship".

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For the Sikhs his rule was a "Haleemi Raj" i.e. a Kingdom ruled with utmost humility, kindliness and a sense of service to humanity.

putting into pdf format is pain in the arse, do you know how to go about doing that?

and may i ask whats wrong with uk sikhs? i read something shocking, youths are confused man, they find completely alright to sleep with bnp to press their agenda to kick out muslims and on other hand some new age youths find it completely ok to sleep with pakistan in order to fight against hindus and get khalistan..lol

i find it really odd and funny..

hoddie of sant jarnail singh ji bhindranwale/khalistan- 5 quids

hand made taksali kirpan - 30 quids

big titanuim or sarbloh hand made karas- 40-50 quids

new age sikh youth fanatics hating on muslims and hindus and sleeping with BNP and then lol sleeping with pakistani - PRICELESS!! only in UK ..LOL

Love towards guru ji doesnt have any language, there is no question about it.

However I cannot stop thinking how funny it would sound when sikhs who are influenced by black sub culture get darshan of guru ji and talk with guru ji- yo man that sick yo in anand, i got darshan of guru maharaj. i spoke to guru ji, i said yo guru ji, your parkash is sick yo, hook me up with some sick kirpa yo, please take me wiv ya, please bless me with some kirpa yo. then after that discuss with singhs about the vision, you know geeza- maharaj was wearing 5 kakars yo, pure sarblohi yo, i cannot stop looking at maharaj's shastar yo.

It just sound innocent funny man, nothing wrong with the lingo. just funny. just like it would mad funny it would sound when rapper when dies, talks to dharamraja. yo what did i commit wrong man? i thought i was defending myself when i killed that &#&#$# mosquito. take a chill pill yo, here take some crack and say wiv me- waz up geeezaaa?

Good to hear from you javanmard

Unlike Amritsar the shrine is in perfect condition and any modern extention is built in the same traditional style

Are you refferring to the sgpc destruction of golden temple?

he is warned before not to copy and paste articles and spam the forum, but thats all he likes to do, this place is not for him. Last thing you want, forum being flooded with copy and paste articles, defeat the purpose of the forum which focuses on doing vichar.

Twareekh written by Bhai Chanda Singh Firozpuri, Gohaj Pothi and Das Gur Jot written by Giani Mall Singh prove that women took Amrit in 1699

could I get dates on these?

I got this from member -bijla singh on sikhsangat, unfortunately no dates were provided.

I actually found references of amrit given to women on sikhsangat after searching the forum:

Twareekh written by Bhai Chanda Singh Firozpuri, Gohaj Pothi and Das Gur Jot written by Giani Mall Singh prove that women took Amrit in 1699. Bhatt Vahis also prove that Amrit should be given to women and they must be named "Kaur". Twareekh Guru Khalsa Part 10 mentions many women who took Amrit. On page 159, there are two sakhis. On 160, there is a sakhi of Bibi Deep Kaur who was an Amritdhari. Rani Sada Kaur, mother in-law of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, was also Amritdhari. It is written in Guru Prem Padd Parkash that in 1702 Guru Sahib married Mata Sahib Devan and gave her Amrit. She became Mata Sahib Kaur. Sant Attar Singh gave Amrit to women equally. Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji gave Amrit to women and rejected giving Kirpan amrit to women. Read Gurbani Paath Darshan written by him.

I understand where you coming from chatanga, i honestly also think from point of view guru, guru would never denied amrit to women. However what i find boggling is, how come there is not even credible puratan source which talks about this amrit given to women by dasam patsah. I find it bit strange..why is that? does it mean our puratan history writers were sexist to an extend? not that i am implying that but just exploring what causes them not to write amrit given to women by sri guru gobind singh ji, they defaniately amrit given to men but not women.

chatanga ji, i dont think thats sant attar singh ji mastauna wale because they went sachkhand before this picture was taken.

check it out veer, i re-uploaded it.

daas bhaaji, please re-read the forum rules, typing in caps not allowed. Please in future dont type in caps, i dont think you knew but typing caps means you are yelling, didnt seem from your post that you are yelling?

I dont think its from jaap sahib, its from akaal ustat sahib, here is the direct link:

http://www.sridasam.org/dasam?Action=Page&p=66

Hakikat- means realization of supreme reality.