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Wow that picture of kirpan with sharp edges and its length in the article certainly won't help us especially with meaning of kirpan being article of faith abroad. I am not sure if media purposely posted that picture or they actually asked amritdhari khalsa to take out the kirpan so that they can take a picture.

I am sure you guys heard, libyan secret service agent who was convicted on bombing of pan am 103 flight back in 1988 which killed 270 people just released recently from Scotland and sent back to his home country based on compassionate grounds.

I just wanted to find your views on his release and Scotland laws on compassionate grounds?

Here is video of Scotland justice minister announcing his release and the reasons for it:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/08/21...tml#cnnSTCVideo

He is getting quite a welcome in his home country because people believed he was innocent:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/08/21...mber/index.html

Libyan bomber written statement was read out by his lawyer:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/08/21...tml#cnnSTCVideo

Please share your views on this.

Mukat Marg Granth is mentioned by Giani Thakur Singh Ji Patial Walae in their Anand Sahib katha.

I have the granth at home it was released by baba major singh ji. It is about what fal you get from what paths. this includes numer of repititions and days.

Is this granth same as sharda puran granth?

That is some serious stuff man as dalsingh pointed out "Secondly, if this is a double bluff, it must be the most dangerous one ever played in public."

Sharia muslims will halal him into pieces if he is caught with double bluff espionage.

Yes listen to kamalroop singh lecture on shakti and shakta.

When this forum started...there was this guy with various alias on here..but i used to call him - pandit..he used to spread his rss stuff...he was biggest rss online..he spent all his life on the forum to spread his views...i challenge him with many debates ..back then he used to have little edge over the debates because i didn't understood sikh theology very well. But now i can say by maharaj kirpa i have fair bit of understanding on sikh philosphy and theology. If he is reading this msg..i welcome him here for a debate.

the khanda headstyle is terrible. 1st ive seen. think they just tryna speak to da yoot in der own langwij.

Yeah that was sickening, hope someone put some sense in his head on sacred values of sikhism with pyaar.

Also author of this video breached some serious privacy laws posting pictures of people without consent. The sad one, they put picture of old baba with patka on without interviewing or asking for premission.. what kinda twisted photo journalism is this? They way passed of guerrilla photo journalism panthic website uses.

This is not a way to do parchar man..what are these people thinking? Gurmat/Manmat intimidation club can only get you soo far. I am sure every mona who saw this video buildup up more hatred towards amritdhari singhs than they had originally due to misunderstanding. It has to be approached differently. The problem is every tom, d!ck harry thinks they have same charisma as sant jarnail singh bhindranwale when they do try to blunt parchar. Most of times, it just backfires..they would need to use different approach or best just concentrate on their own sikhi let bibeki singhs and senior gurmukhs with gyan handle the parchar of Sikhi.

Mangal Charan in Sri Sarbloh Granth goes like this:

Sri Bhavani Ji Sahaie |

Sri Maya Lakshmi Ji Sahaie |

Ustat Sri Maya Lakshmi Ji Ki Sri Mukhvakh Patsahi Dasvin ||

Guru Maharaj dedicated this mangal charan to daiv shakti of nirgun vahiguroo in form of sargun maya feminine lakshmi ji.

londanjatt,

you two wrong does not make it right.

Fanaticism is global problem, be it buddhist, hindu, christian, Islamic, sikh, jain etc etc. We shouldn't side with one group of fanaticism to show solidarity against other set of fanatics.

Hows this camp going on?. I think rumor has it- bhai kulbir singh ji of toronto might be attending this camp.

Exactly Maha Singh, gurbani is not a rule book with do and don't. It's agad bodh gyan of Nirgun Vahiguroo and ekta of this jiv and atma.

Any chance you coming to Canada to teach me and others maha sion?

Even though pritpal singh bindra is staunchly against sri dasam granth. I think his translations seems to be ok when i speak to other people. I will compare some of his charitar translations with pandit naryan singh ji steek.

First Sampuran English translations of charitaropakyan, Sri Dasam Granth.

Please see-attachments

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13262747_English_Translation_of_Chritropakhyaan_From_Dasam_Granth_Vol1.pdf

13262753_English_Translation_of_Chritropakhyaan_From_Dasam_Granth_Vol2.pdf

No worries, just wanted to make everyone aware kids do come on this forum.

Guys no swearing, everyone calm down. Kids come visit this forum, please think about them when you post swearing words.

Here is my ranting on this, you may find it helpful to know the facts.: http://www.sikhawareness.com//index.php?s=...st&p=103105

Just wanted to rephrase, not all kharkos were motivated by revenge. I meant to some. I like to also clarify, fanaticism is global problem is not bound to one religion. All fanatics be it - christians, islamic/muslims, buddhists, hindus, sikhs, jaini, communist, socialist, capitalist, atheist all are threat to this humanity...!!. They do not need to be jailed in Guantanamo bay nor killed, their hate parchar and form of recruit has to be rooted out from the seed if you want to save humanity...!

I received vijaydeep singh email few weeks ago advising me that Dr Anokh Singh will be in calgary also in edmonton from 28/07/09 to 19/08/09.. Please try in get in touch with them for debate in this seminar. He is looking for invitations at the different gurdwaras so he can spread sri dasam granth sahib parchar.

for god's sake, didnt you read his post at 09:37pm. waheguru can send thousands of messengers, but if they fall prey to the vices of humanity's bad tendencies, then how is that god's fault? what you are implying borders on blasphemy. god may have sent mohammed, but it was mohammed's choice to shag a 9 year old girl. waheguru cannot micromanage our lives, otherwise what would be the point of reincarnation? waheguru can guide us, but only if we listen. its our fault if we choose to ignore waheguru and force others to believe the lies we spin to silence our conscience.

I think we are looking at puratan rishis/munis/pir/pagamvar/prophets lives with goggles of Western Victorian standards. Which is bit unfair. If you have problem with Mohammad marriage with 9 year old girl. Then I am sure you would have problems with lives of our Guru's and their multiple wives/consort at very young age. Again i am not comparing Guru Maharaj ji avastha and Mohammad. I consider Guru Maharaj ji - aap narayan vahiguroo ji. However, sometimes lives of prophets/avtars have to be compared to give reality checks.

p.s- I think we are going off-topic now.

two different saint figures.

could someone please post the petition on sikhsangat.com as well? they banned me, so i cant.

They banned you too, welcome to the club bro

If westerners ask me if sikhs have martial art and need info. I would without hesitation tell them its- Shastar Vidya over embrassing gatka or new age hocus pocus martial art sikhs like to engage in.